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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://susancrowe.co.uk/2008/01/14/swamp-donkey-and-cherish/comment-page-1/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!
It was really useful to see your blog and your cardigan looks really nice! I&#039;ve just started the pattern myself and can&#039;t get my head around the bit that comes after the Back Lower edging.... I&#039;ve chosen the Medium size so I&#039;ve already knitted the 46 rows.  Now I don&#039;t understand why it says pick up 33 stitches as I have 46 rows for the Back part (?)... I hope you don&#039;t mind me asking you...but you know a lot and I&#039;d love to learn!
Thanks for any help!  All the best,
Tina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!<br />
It was really useful to see your blog and your cardigan looks really nice! I&#8217;ve just started the pattern myself and can&#8217;t get my head around the bit that comes after the Back Lower edging&#8230;. I&#8217;ve chosen the Medium size so I&#8217;ve already knitted the 46 rows.  Now I don&#8217;t understand why it says pick up 33 stitches as I have 46 rows for the Back part (?)&#8230; I hope you don&#8217;t mind me asking you&#8230;but you know a lot and I&#8217;d love to learn!<br />
Thanks for any help!  All the best,<br />
Tina</p>
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		<title>By: susan crowe</title>
		<link>http://susancrowe.co.uk/2008/01/14/swamp-donkey-and-cherish/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>susan crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dorothy

( Dorothy wrote to me on ravelry with a problem getting the &quot; shape armhole and front neck&quot; decreases to work...)

I&#039;m guessing you&#039;re making the 34&quot; size if you&#039;re getting to 16 stitches?

That&#039;s not an easy one is it! I work this stuff out by writing the row  numbers on paper 1 to 10. Then I note the Armhole increases above each row number and the neck increases below.
So row 1 has &quot;-2&quot; above it and &quot;-1&quot; below it. I then work out how many stitches I should have at the end of each row. For row one I started with 24 stitches, minus 3 stitches in total - I have 21 st left. When it&#039;s complicated I get the coloured pencils out too! It&#039;s easer to do on paper than knit it every time for me anyway.

Here&#039;s how it works out.

 I&#039;ll number the rows 1 to 10

Start with 24 stitches.

Row 1 Cast off 2 st arm hole edge and dec 1 at neck edge (21 st)

Row 2 no decreases (21 st)

Row 3 Decrease 1 st at armhole edge and 1 st at neck edge (19 st)

Row 4 Decrease 1 st at armhole edge (18 st)

Row 5 decrease 1st neck edge  (17 st)

Row 6 no decreases (17st)

Row 7 Decrease 1 st neck edge(16st)

Row 8,9,10 No Decrease

Is that as clear as mud?

I&#039;ll post this on my blog too - might help others!

Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dorothy</p>
<p>( Dorothy wrote to me on ravelry with a problem getting the &#8221; shape armhole and front neck&#8221; decreases to work&#8230;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing you&#8217;re making the 34&#8243; size if you&#8217;re getting to 16 stitches?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not an easy one is it! I work this stuff out by writing the row  numbers on paper 1 to 10. Then I note the Armhole increases above each row number and the neck increases below.<br />
So row 1 has &#8220;-2&#8243; above it and &#8220;-1&#8243; below it. I then work out how many stitches I should have at the end of each row. For row one I started with 24 stitches, minus 3 stitches in total &#8211; I have 21 st left. When it&#8217;s complicated I get the coloured pencils out too! It&#8217;s easer to do on paper than knit it every time for me anyway.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it works out.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ll number the rows 1 to 10</p>
<p>Start with 24 stitches.</p>
<p>Row 1 Cast off 2 st arm hole edge and dec 1 at neck edge (21 st)</p>
<p>Row 2 no decreases (21 st)</p>
<p>Row 3 Decrease 1 st at armhole edge and 1 st at neck edge (19 st)</p>
<p>Row 4 Decrease 1 st at armhole edge (18 st)</p>
<p>Row 5 decrease 1st neck edge  (17 st)</p>
<p>Row 6 no decreases (17st)</p>
<p>Row 7 Decrease 1 st neck edge(16st)</p>
<p>Row 8,9,10 No Decrease</p>
<p>Is that as clear as mud?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post this on my blog too &#8211; might help others!</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Jefferies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy Jefferies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it too late to ask a question about this pattern? It looks fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too late to ask a question about this pattern? It looks fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: susan crowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charlotte

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re the first to be baffled by this one!

The thing to get your head around is that you are turning around in the middle of a row. If you just turned and started knitting, you&#039;d end up with a nasty hole. What this technique does is wrap the yarn around the next (unworked ) stitch before you turn around and go back the other way. Think of it a poking the ball of wool between the next two stitches on the needle - obviously there&#039;s not space to do that so you have to jiggle a stitch to the other needle and back again (oh dear, I think I&#039;m making it worse...)

Once you&#039;ve wrapped your stitch there will be an obvious horizontal loop of yarn at the base of the wrapped stitch. To get rid of this, when you find yourself about to kint that stitch you poke the right hand needle up through that loop then into the stitch as normal and knit the two loops together.

That has probably confused the hell out of you !

There&#039;s a really good video of how to do it here
http://www.knittinghelp.com/videos/advanced-techniques

(it&#039;s second from bottom) - shows you how to do the wrap and how to work the loop and stitch together. The video does use the continental style and turn the work before wrapping the stitch but it gets the same result. It&#039;s always easier to watch it being done huh?

Are you using the pattern fro the Heartfelt book? If so there&#039;s an explanation on page 91 under the heading &quot;wrap stitch&quot;.

In case you don&#039;t have the book (I know Cherish has been available as a separate pattern), the same text is on Kim Hargreaves site here:-
http://www.kimhargreaves.co.uk/acatalog/Help.html

(she explains it better than me!)

And there&#039;s and explanation in pictures here too
http://www.sweaterscapes.com/shortrok.htm

Persevere - it&#039;s a really useful skill to know.

I hope I&#039;ve helped :-)


Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charlotte</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re the first to be baffled by this one!</p>
<p>The thing to get your head around is that you are turning around in the middle of a row. If you just turned and started knitting, you&#8217;d end up with a nasty hole. What this technique does is wrap the yarn around the next (unworked ) stitch before you turn around and go back the other way. Think of it a poking the ball of wool between the next two stitches on the needle &#8211; obviously there&#8217;s not space to do that so you have to jiggle a stitch to the other needle and back again (oh dear, I think I&#8217;m making it worse&#8230;)</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve wrapped your stitch there will be an obvious horizontal loop of yarn at the base of the wrapped stitch. To get rid of this, when you find yourself about to kint that stitch you poke the right hand needle up through that loop then into the stitch as normal and knit the two loops together.</p>
<p>That has probably confused the hell out of you !</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a really good video of how to do it here<br />
<a href="http://www.knittinghelp.com/videos/advanced-techniques" rel="nofollow">http://www.knittinghelp.com/videos/advanced-techniques</a></p>
<p>(it&#8217;s second from bottom) &#8211; shows you how to do the wrap and how to work the loop and stitch together. The video does use the continental style and turn the work before wrapping the stitch but it gets the same result. It&#8217;s always easier to watch it being done huh?</p>
<p>Are you using the pattern fro the Heartfelt book? If so there&#8217;s an explanation on page 91 under the heading &#8220;wrap stitch&#8221;.</p>
<p>In case you don&#8217;t have the book (I know Cherish has been available as a separate pattern), the same text is on Kim Hargreaves site here:-<br />
<a href="http://www.kimhargreaves.co.uk/acatalog/Help.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kimhargreaves.co.uk/acatalog/Help.html</a></p>
<p>(she explains it better than me!)</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s and explanation in pictures here too<br />
<a href="http://www.sweaterscapes.com/shortrok.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sweaterscapes.com/shortrok.htm</a></p>
<p>Persevere &#8211; it&#8217;s a really useful skill to know.</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;ve helped <img src='http://susancrowe.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. I stumbled across your site while trying to find some help with the short row shaping for the front of my Cherish cardigan. I&#039;m a bit of a novice but a friend assured me that the pattern was pretty straightforward for a beginner. Not sure that I agree! However I will persevere. Your top looks wonderful and I can see that the back I have completed looks as it should, thank god. But to the short row shaping - what on earth does she mean about wrapping the yarn around the stitch and then working the wrapped loop together with the wrapped stitch? I&#039;ve had to unravel it all once and don&#039;t want to do that again so any advice would be gratefully received - though obviously I know that this is probably rather cheeky of me to ask .... all the best, Charlotte</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. I stumbled across your site while trying to find some help with the short row shaping for the front of my Cherish cardigan. I&#8217;m a bit of a novice but a friend assured me that the pattern was pretty straightforward for a beginner. Not sure that I agree! However I will persevere. Your top looks wonderful and I can see that the back I have completed looks as it should, thank god. But to the short row shaping &#8211; what on earth does she mean about wrapping the yarn around the stitch and then working the wrapped loop together with the wrapped stitch? I&#8217;ve had to unravel it all once and don&#8217;t want to do that again so any advice would be gratefully received &#8211; though obviously I know that this is probably rather cheeky of me to ask &#8230;. all the best, Charlotte</p>
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		<title>By: Soo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks great. I made Tess from the same book and echo enthusiastically all of your comments on the designs!  Fabulous stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks great. I made Tess from the same book and echo enthusiastically all of your comments on the designs!  Fabulous stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh - gorgeous!  I&#039;ve just ordered the kit for this from the Kim Hargreaves site - it&#039;s just what I&#039;d like to knit next.  After I&#039;ve done the Space Invader socks, and finished the other jumper I started over Christmas.  And done the gloves that I promised my mum.  So I&#039;ll probably get started on this in about June!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh &#8211; gorgeous!  I&#8217;ve just ordered the kit for this from the Kim Hargreaves site &#8211; it&#8217;s just what I&#8217;d like to knit next.  After I&#8217;ve done the Space Invader socks, and finished the other jumper I started over Christmas.  And done the gloves that I promised my mum.  So I&#8217;ll probably get started on this in about June!</p>
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		<title>By: Arianwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arianwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is very nice. I had forgotten how flattering kim&#039;s designs are. A good result with or without the man flu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is very nice. I had forgotten how flattering kim&#8217;s designs are. A good result with or without the man flu.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow that is lovely,i want one.:)Hope you feel better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow that is lovely,i want one.:)Hope you feel better now.</p>
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		<title>By: yarnsnob</title>
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		<dc:creator>yarnsnob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all you knits, they always look so professional.
Sorry about the flu, I know how it feels especially to catch it from Man flu...thats the worst. Get well soon, plenty fluids :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all you knits, they always look so professional.<br />
Sorry about the flu, I know how it feels especially to catch it from Man flu&#8230;thats the worst. Get well soon, plenty fluids <img src='http://susancrowe.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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